October
17
2007

Dusty Baker is back like Griffey in ‘Slugfest’

9:07 am — 

And Ken Griffey Jr. is on his team now! I must be at the nexus of the universe!

Anyway, Dusty Baker is back at the helm of a Major League ball club, and I’m cringing at the thought.

You’d think a guy who said that walks clog the bases would be disqualified from any and all management positions in baseball. I thought people that said things like that were limited to analyzing games for us on TV.

I guess they do both, now.

Anyway, the Reds do A LOT of walking, and Baker isn’t going to take to it very kindly.

Here’s Keith Law with the rest of that terrific Baker quote:

So Baker likes to work pitchers hard and doesn’t seem overly concerned when they walk too many opposing hitters. In fact, he has said walks are an overrated part of offense.

“I think walks are overrated unless you can run,” Baker said in an MLB.com story in March 2004. “If you get a walk and put the pitcher in a stretch, that helps, but the guy who walks and can’t run, most of the time he’s clogging up the bases for somebody who can run. … Who have been the champions the last seven, eight years? Have you ever heard the Yankees talk about on-base percentage and walks?”

This evinces, in my view, a lack of understanding of how runs are scored — and of the importance not just of getting on base, but of plate discipline in general. And in fact, the two years before Baker made those comments, the Yankees did lead the American League in walks, just as they did in 1997 and 1998, the latter being the year in which they won 114 games and led the league in runs scored.

See, this is exactly why the Reds can’t compete. It’s not because they’re in a small market or because they don’t have talent. No, it’s because they make bad personnel decisions. They’re like the Chicago Bears in that regard. But the Bears at least draft well.

The Reds are in rebuilding mode, or at least they should be. This is a team that hasn’t finished above .500 since 2000. Only a few teams can say that, and besides maybe the Devil Rays, it’s for the same reasons as the Reds.

Baker is notorious for his inability to develop young talent. This is why after winning the division with the Cubs in 2003 the team finished in third, fourth and last in the division after each of the next three seasons.

Baker’s .527 career winning percentage is probably what lured the Reds into giving him the reins, but Baker is usually the guy that comes in and takes over a veteran team that is already suited for the playoffs — like the Cubs in 2003. When it didn’t work out, things got uglier and uglier.

Coincidentally, Rob Neyer brought up how much good a manager can be to a team in his ESPN chat wrap yesterday:

I would guess that maybe 10 percent of managers are capable of making a significant positive impact, but 25 percent are capable of making a significant negative impact. So if you’re the Yankees, you just have to guard against hiring one of those 25-percenters (and yes, I just pulled those numbers out of my nether regions).

Keith Law, again talking on the subject, echoed this sentiment on ESPNNews shortly after the announcement:

I think we really overrate how much good a manager can do…A good manager might be worth 3-4 wins, maybe five if he’s really good with his bullpen like Bob Melvin is, tops. But more likely a good manager is worth an extra two wins a season. But a bad manager? Not only could he be worth five or eight fewer wins…but i think a bad manager could really hurt you going forward because (he) can really retard the development of your prospects.

Speaking of which, the Reds are busting with young talent. Top pitching prospect Homer Bailey will be a regular starter next season, and Johnny Cueto, another top prospect is waiting in line after him. Additionally, the bats of Joey Votto and Jay Bruce will make big impacts in the middle of the lineup. There is more than enough talent here to win an NL Central title — with the right person in charge.

Forgetting what ESPN analysts have to say, I asked the one Reds fan I know what he thought about Baker. His response?

So far, 98% of Reds fans are pissed over the move.

Way to get the fans back. This was their chance, the Bengals suck, ND
football is awful, UC & UK basketball is down. They could have been the
talk of the town. Instead…ummmmm, not so much.

Thanks for those inspiring words, John.

To be sure, it won’t be long before Baker is back in the broadcast booth, telling us the same wrong things that he tells his players.

Just, out.

17 Responses to “Dusty Baker is back like Griffey in ‘Slugfest’”

  1. Ross Says:

    “Man, this guy’s turning up the heat.”

  2. David Just Says:

    “Get out the rye bread and mustard, it’s grand salami time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

  3. Scott Says:

    The Bears have drafted well? Besides the obligatory “Who are the Bears, what is football, this is Just Baseball and we only recognize Baseball and Horse Racing”, please name for me these great draft picks of the Bears…

    My oh my that ball had a vapor trail!

  4. David Just Says:

    Some off my head? Urlacher. Briggs. Hester. Harris. Berrian-ish. I’m still confident in Benson. You’re going to tell me these aren’t the guys chiefly responsible for their run last year?

    “I’m Ken Griffey Jr. Welcome to my world.”

  5. Ross Says:

    How about Rashaan Salaam?

    “Good hustle!”

  6. Scott Says:

    Great hustle!

  7. Ross Says:

    Are you sure about that one?

    “Man, what a glove!”

  8. Gerg Says:

    Wow Dave I’m disappointed there has not been a statistical analysis to explain the Rockies. This team has clinched the NL (winning 21 of there last 22) and making their first World Series appearance and you have yet to written anything on them. Is it because they are winning with the help of intangibles such as chemistry, momentum, etc? Clint Hurdle is da man. I can’t believe baker gets a story before the Rocks. GO ROCKIES!

  9. David Just Says:

    I like the umpires the best, too, i think.

    “He’s-in-there!”

  10. Ross Says:

    Just, everyone knows the the best two ump quotes from the game are “InfieldFLY!!” and “Ground…roool…..duble….”

  11. David Just Says:

    I also love how the PA guy mispronounces everything!

    “Now batting…the second basemen…

    Carlos…Baeaeaeaeaeaearga!”

  12. Scott Says:

    I..I…It….it….it’s Showtime

  13. Ross Says:

    “Now pitching… Keith Folk-ee!”

  14. David Just Says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!! YES ROSS!!

    “He was NOwhere near that one”

  15. Scott S. Says:

    Last 10 years of Bears 1st round Draft Picks

    2007 - Olsen - Too early
    2006 - No pick
    2005 - Benson - Sucks
    2004 - Harris - Good
    2003 - Haynes / Grossman - Sucks, Sucks
    2002 - Colombo - Sucks
    2001 - Terrell - Sucks
    2000 - Urlacher - Great
    1999 - McNown - Sucks
    1998 - Enis - Sucks
    1997 - No pick

    Final tally - 7 sucks, 2 greats, 2 no picks, 1 too early. Not a good average, and a lot of these were very high picks.

  16. Andy Says:

    The Bears are good at getting value in later rounds. See Mark Anderson, Nathan Vasher, Lance Briggs, Chris Harris. Also, Tommie Harris belongs in the great category. He is the best DT in the game.

    Back to baseball…Dusty sucks.

  17. Andy Says:

    Funny comment on Keith Law’s blog from some random poster:

    “As a Cub fan, I am ecstatic about the Reds hiring Baker. May he manage there forever.

    If he doesn’t manage there forever, may he manage in St. Louis, Houston, or Milwaukee.

    And if he manages in Milwaukee, may Ned Yost manage one of the other two teams.”

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